Monday, 21 April 2025

SET SAIL WITH JANE AUSTEN: AN INTERVIEW WITH NATALIE JENNER

 


We are thrilled to welcome author Natalie Jenner back to My Jane Austen Book Club to discuss her latest novel, Austen at Sea. Known for her captivating historical fiction and her deep love of all things Austen, Natalie Jenner’s new book takes readers on a transatlantic adventure filled with literary intrigue, romance, and the enduring spirit of Jane Austen herself.

In Austen at Sea, readers will follow the Stevenson sisters and the Nelson brothers as they journey to England in 1865, lured by the promise of a rare Austen artifact and the chance to meet her last surviving brother, Sir Francis Austen. Alongside historical figures like Louisa May Alcott, Jenner masterfully weaves a tale of adventure and self-discovery, all under the guiding influence of Austen’s legacy.

Join us as we discover more about the inspiration behind Austen at Sea, explore the role of literature in this thrilling voyage, and learn more about Natalie Jenner’s ongoing connection to the world of Jane Austen.

  Austen at Sea features an exciting journey across the Atlantic, with characters drawn to England by the promise of a rare Austen artifact. What inspired this adventurous premise, and how did you imagine Jane Austen’s influence guiding your characters on this voyage?

The initial inspiration for this premise began in the fall of 2017, a year when I immersed myself in Jane Austen as a way of coping with a family medical crisis, which in turn led to the writing of my debut novel The Jane Austen Society. One of the books I read at that time was Professor Juliette Wells’s excellent Reading Austen in America, which details the ownership history of the first US edition of Emma. Here I learned about the Quincy sisters of Boston who wrote to Admiral Sir Francis Austen in 1852 to express admiration for his own sister’s work, culminating in a trip to visit him some years later. I thought to myself, “They’re like the original groupies!” and in that moment, I knew I would one day write this book.

I am one of those authors who writes entirely intuitively and impulsively, word by word, page by page, in order to find out what is going to happen next (we’re called “pantsers” versus plotters, because we write by the seat of our pants!). With Austen at Sea, it wasn’t until I sat down and typed the first words (“Six justices were assembled in chambers to consider the case before them”) that I had any inkling of how Austen might be interrogated within my own text—by a “book club” made up of judges debating her works! Austen’s influence on my characters was something that I always caught up to after it happened—one of my great joys in editing is detecting the hidden motives, patterns and themes of my story long after the fact, making the entire act of creative writing even more magical. I write to feel that magic.

  The Stevenson sisters are inspired by Jane Austen’s works to seek adventure and independence. How did Austen’s novels and her own life shape the characters and themes of Austen at Sea?

When my characters first confront each other on the page, I sometimes see “sparks.” These were immediate in Austen at Sea between twenty-year-old Charlotte Stevenson and Justice Thomas Nash, her father’s colleague on the Massachusetts state bench. There was also a significant age difference (Nash is a judge in his thirties), and so the Emma/Knightley dynamic quickly asserted itself as a fun relationship parallel to play with. And the minute senator’s daughter (and occasional gambler) Sara-Beth Gleason entered Haslett Nelson’s bookshop and threw a book down from the rolling ladder for him to catch, I saw shades of Mary Crawford. I haven’t intentionally thought through any other parallels with Austen characters, but I’m sure they’re there!

I didn’t plan on an elopement happening in the plot, but the idea quickly took hold given how relevant runaway lovers were to both Austen’s books and her time. And the idea of women centuries ago writing within a home, somewhat secretly, as form of amusement and connection—much as we know Austen herself enjoyed doing—definitely was in my mind as I pictured the two Stevenson sisters furtively corresponding with Sir Francis from their attic bedroom.

  Sir Francis Austen plays a key role in this story, drawing both the Stevenson sisters and the Nelson brothers to England. What drew you to write about Jane Austen’s brother, and how did you approach bringing this real historical figure to life on the page?

Sir Francis might be my favourite character in the book, partly because I learned so much about him as I wrote him. I was particularly drawn to his love for the sea which manifested itself in a myriad of ways as I wrote, from the handcrafted telescope he carries everywhere to the captain’s desk in which he hides the secret literary trove of his sister.

Whenever I incorporate real-life people in my fiction, my approach is to first determine when and where the story will take place and make sure the “goal posts” with such real lives match up (in this case, I wanted the setting to be post-Civil War society and knew that Sir Francis had died in 1865, and so 1865 post-war Boston it was!). I then try to collect as much information as possible about any real-life figures in proportion to their role in the plot; hence, Sir Francis was researched the most, followed by Louisa May Alcott, followed by Sir Cresswell Cresswell and so on.

As I write, I stop and google any questions that come up: what telescope might Sir Francis have owned? When exactly did Louisa May Alcott sail to England and on what ship? How many cases did Sir Cresswell decide as head of the England and Wales divorce court? As a former lawyer, I always want to make sure that every word I’ve typed either happened or—most importantly, as this is fiction—could have happened. Through this somewhat fluid approach, I hope to always keep my story at the forefront of my efforts and the history as the scaffolding on which to hang it, rather than the other way around!

  Your novel includes an intriguing blend of real and fictional characters, including Louisa May Alcott. How did you decide which historical figures to include, and what kind of conversations do you imagine they’d have had about Jane Austen’s work?

My characters, real or imaginary, always choose me. When I read that Alcott, Austen’s greatest nineteenth-century Boston female authorial counterpart, sailed to England the same summer as my characters, my jaw dropped: I simply had to find a way to get the Stevenson sisters on board the same boat as Louisa! The same thing happened while writing Bloomsbury Girls (about a trio of women who try to take over a bookshop from its all-male management), when I learned that Peggy Guggenheim once worked in an all-female bookshop in Manhattan—into that book she, too, went!

I loved researching Alcott and learning of her reading preference for Dickens and the Brontës over Austen, given her own writerly gravitation toward scenes of “blood and thunder.” And I had so much fun writing the shipboard chapters in which Louisa and the other female passengers plan their charity performance of A Tale of Two Cities and debate this very thing. As for Sir Francis, of the most touching aspects of Austen’s life and legacy was how proud he and the family were of her writing. I could imagine them revelling in Austen’s stories for many years after her tragic early death, parsing the pages for clues and parallels with their wider circle of relations and friends—something everyone enjoys doing when there is a published writer in their midst!

  Rare books and literary artifacts are a significant part of Austen at Sea. What do you think the discovery of a new Austen artifact might mean to fans of her work, both in your novel and in real life?

When a genius dies young, from Shakespeare to Van Gogh and sadly onward, we seem compelled to try to “pin down” the source of their greatness and what they were like as people. In my novel, the characters are energized by discovering Sir Francis’s hidden trove of his sister’s writing: they feel themselves brought closer to Austen as a result (the goal, I think, of many collectors) while also recognizing the tremendous potential benefit to serious study and analysis of her works.

Recently, after decades of scholars and fans alike contemplating Austen’s love life (or possible lack thereof) as an underpinning to her books, a new letter came up for auction in which Jane writes Cassandra of an upcoming ball with Tom Lefroy in attendance. Suddenly a romance previously conjectured from the barest of historical record felt much more real and probable and affecting, sending us back to the books themselves with a renewed sense of the workings of Austen’s own heart and their possible ramifications within her plots.

  The spirit of Jane Austen seems to hover over this story, influencing the characters' lives. If Austen herself were a character in Austen at Sea, how do you think she might have responded to the adventure, and what advice might she have offered?

If Austen herself were a character in Austen at Sea, I think she would have behaved more like the calm and steely Henrietta Stevenson of Boston or the witty but morally upright Justice Nash, than those characters who are more rebellious or (literally!) “gambling” in nature. I think Austen in my book would have tried to get what she wants while always respecting social mores, which in turn requires patience and steadfastness of heart—very Anne Eliot-esque! I think she would have advised Henrietta in particular to follow her heart but at a slower and steadier pace.

  With Austen at Sea and your previous books like The Jane Austen Society, you’ve built a literary world rich with Austen’s legacy. What do you hope readers take away from these stories about the enduring power of Jane Austen’s influence?

Constantly realizing anew the “bottomless well” to Austen’s genius, I hope that my readers glean that same appreciation from my stories. This must be why both of my Austen-connected works centre around groups of people (whether Chawton villagers or supreme court judges) who excitedly share with each other their own latest insights into her books. There are few reading experiences more pleasurable to me than returning to one of Austen’s stories and discovering for the first time a new clue to the magic she seemed—like all geniuses—to so effortlessly weave.

  Finally, if you could ask Jane Austen one question, what would it be—and why?

Was there ever a different ending to Mansfield Park?

As a writer, I can’t help but regard the revolving quartet of Edmund, Mary, Henry and Fanny—and the almost too-sudden swerve ball Austen throws at the end—as something that stayed in motion in her head. Near the end of Austen at Sea, Charlotte Stevenson confesses how “she had wished Henry Crawford for Fanny Price all along. She couldn’t help but wonder if Austen had changed her own mind somewhere in the writing of it, so fascinating a couple as they almost became.” The “pantser” in me will always wonder the very same!

ABOUT THE BOOK

Two pairs of siblings, devotees of Jane Austen, find their lives transformed by a visit to England and Sir Francis Austen, her last surviving brother and keeper of a long-suppressed, secret legacy.

In Boston, 1865, Charlotte and Henrietta Stevenson, daughters of a Massachusetts Supreme Court Justice, have accomplished as much as women are allowed in those days. Chafing against those restrictions and inspired by the works of Jane Austen, they start a secret correspondence with Sir Francis Austen, her last surviving brother, now in his nineties. He sends them an original letter from his sister and invites them to come visit him in England.

In Philadelphia, Nicholas & Haslett Nelson—bachelor brothers, veterans of the recent Civil War, and rare book dealers—are also in correspondence with Sir Francis Austen, who lures them, too, to England, with the promise of a never-before-seen, rare Austen artifact to be evaluated.

The Stevenson sisters sneak away without a chaperone to sail to England. On their ship are the Nelson brothers, writer Louisa May Alcott, Sara-Beth Gleason—wealthy daughter of a Pennsylvania state senator with her eye on the Nelsons—and, a would-be last-minute chaperone to the Stevenson sisters, Justice Thomas Nash.

It's a voyage and trip that will dramatically change each of their lives in ways that are unforeseen, with the transformative spirit of the love of literature and that of Jane Austen herself.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR


Natalie Jenner
is the USA Today and #1 nationally bestselling author of THE JANE AUSTEN SOCIETY and BLOOMSBURY GIRLS, which were both Amazon Best Books of the Month, Indie Next Picks and People Magazine Books of the Week. THE JANE AUSTEN SOCIETY was the runner-up for best historical fiction in the 2020 Goodreads Choice Awards and has been published in more than twenty languages. Natalie's third novel, EVERY TIME WE SAY GOODBYE, releases on May 14, 2024, and her fourth novel AUSTEN AT SEA is scheduled to release on May 6 2025. Born in England and raised in Canada, Natalie has been a corporate lawyer and career coach and once owned an independent bookstore in Oakville, Ontario, where she lives with her family and two rescue dogs.

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